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Friday, July 15, 2022

Postscript from Kristina's letter to Manuel Texeira, dated November 2/12 (New Style), 1672

Sources:

Bibliothèque interuniversitaire (Montpellier); Manuscrits de la reine Christine; VIII: Lettere della regina ai suoi ministri; Varii Poscretti della regina al Signore Texeira; Lettres à Texeira; 76: Christine de Suède à Texeira, [s. l.], 12 novembre 1672 (digitisation pages 130v-131r to 131v-132r)


Christine (1626-1689 ; reine de Suède), Manuscrits de la reine Christine: Lettere della regina ai suoi ministri, : , 1601-1700.

The Foli@ online digital heritage library is here:


Copyright SCDI-UPV - Collections Université de Montpellier (shelfmark H 258).

Mémoires concernant Christine, reine de Suède, volume 3, page 429, compiled and edited by Johan Arckenholtz, 1759




The postscript (with Kristina's handwriting in italics):

12. Nov[emb]re. — Hauete ragione di dire che la morte delli de Witt era necess[ari]a alla quiete ma p[er] quella del P[ri]n[ci]pe d'Oranges, il quale mi pare che cresce à Segno che già è magg[io]re delli Suoi Padri; il popolo è sciocco, e conoscerà vn giorno che non hà conosciuto quello che doueua conoscere linteresse della
Sua liberta

With modernised spelling:

12 novembre. — Avete ragione di dire che la morte delli de Witt era necessaria alla quiete, ma per quella del principe d'Orange, il quale mi pare che cresce assegno che già è maggiore delli suoi padri. Il popolo è sciocco e conoscerà un giorno che non ha conosciuto quello l'interesse della sua libertà.

Arckenholtz's transcript of the postscript (in his French translation):

Vous avez raison de dire que la mort des de Witt étoit nécessaire pour la tranquillité, mais le pouvoir du Prince d'Orange me semble accroître à vue d'œil. Il est déjà plus grand qu'aucun de ses Ancêtres. Le peuple est sot, & il connoîtra un jour l'intérêt de sa liberté, qu'il n'a pas connu jusqu'ici.

Swedish translation (my own):

Ni har rätt i att säga att de Witts död var nödvändig för fred, men prinsen av Oranges makt tycks mig öka synligt. Han är redan större än någon av sina förfäder. Folket är dumma, och de kommer en dag att känna till intresset för sin frihet, som de inte har känt till förrän nu.

English translation (my own):

You are right to say that the death of the de Witts was necessary for peace, but the power of the Prince of Orange seems to me to increase visibly. He is already greater than any of his ancestors. The people are stupid, and they will one day know the interest of their freedom, which they have not known until now.

French translation of the original (my own):

Le 12 novembre. — Vous avez raison de dire que la mort des de Witt était nécessaire à la tranquillité, mais à celle du prince d'Orange, qui me paraît grandir, et qui est déjà plus grande que ses pères. Le peuple est fou et saura un jour qu'il n'a pas connu l'intérêt de sa liberté.

Dutch translation of the original (my own; I cannot tag it as such due to character limits in the tags):

12 november. — U hebt gelijk als u zegt dat de dood van de de Witts nodig was voor de rust, maar voor die van de Prins van Oranje, die mij lijkt te groeien in omvang, die al groter is dan die van zijn vaders. De mensen zijn onnozel en zullen op een dag weten dat ze het belang van hun vrijheid niet hebben gekend.

Swedish translation of the original (my own):

Den 12 november. — Ni har rätt i att säga att de Witts död var nödvändig för lugnet, men för det för prinsen av Orange, som tycks mig växa i storlek, som redan är större än hans fäders. Folket är enfaldigt och kommer en dag att veta att de inte har känt intresset av sin frihet.

English translation of the original (my own):

November 12. — You are right in saying that the death of the de Witts was necessary for quiet, but for that of the Prince of Orange, who seems to me to be growing in size, which is already greater than that of his fathers. The people are foolish and will know one day that they have not known the interest of their liberty.


Above: Kristina.


Above: William (Willem), Prince of Orange.

Postscript from Kristina's letter to Manuel Texeira, dated September 7/17 (New Style), 1672

Sources:

Bibliothèque interuniversitaire (Montpellier); Manuscrits de la reine Christine; VIII: Lettere della regina ai suoi ministri; Varii Poscretti della regina al Signore Texeira; Lettres à Texeira; 75: Christine de Suède à Texeira, [s. l.], 17 septembre 1672 (digitisation page 130v-131r)


Christine (1626-1689 ; reine de Suède), Manuscrits de la reine Christine: Lettere della regina ai suoi ministri, : , 1601-1700.

The Foli@ online digital heritage library is here:


Copyright SCDI-UPV - Collections Université de Montpellier (shelfmark H 258).

Mémoires concernant Christine, reine de Suède, volume 3, page 429, compiled and edited by Johan Arckenholtz, 1759



The postscript:

17. Sett[embr]e — Li poueri de Witt Sono morti, e come Si sia, io li credo morti vittime innocenti della Spirante Libertà della Rep[ubbli]ca il tempo lo farà conoscere

With modernised spelling:

17 settembre. — Li poveri de Witt sono morti; e come si sia, io li credo morti vittime innocenti della spirante libertà della Repubblica. Il tempo lo farà conoscere.

Arckenholtz's transcript of the postscript (in his French translation):

Les pauvres de Witt sont morts. Quoi qu'il en soit, je les crois morts comme des victimes innocentes de la liberté expirante de la République. Le tems le fera connoître.

Swedish translation (my own):

De stackars de Witts är döda. Hur som helst, jag tror att de är döda som oskyldiga offer för Republikens utlöpande frihet. Tiden kommer att göra det känt.

English translation (my own):

The poor de Witts are dead. Either way, I believe them dead as innocent victims of the expiring freedom of the Republic. Time will make it known.

French translation of the original (my own):

Le 17 septembre. — Les pauvres de Witt sont morts; et, quoi qu'il en soit, je les crois morts, victimes innocentes de la liberté expirante de la République. Le temps nous le faire connaître.

Dutch translation of the original (my own; I cannot tag it as such due to character limits in the tags):

17 september. — De arme de Witts zijn dood; en zoals het er nu voorstaat, geloof ik dat ze dood zijn als onschuldige slachtoffers van de aflopende vrijheid van de Republiek. De tijd zal het leren.

Swedish translation of the original (my own):

Den 17 september — De fattiga de Witts är döda; och som det är, tror jag att de är döda som oskyldiga offer för Republikens utlöpande frihet. Det får tiden utvisa.

English translation of the original (my own):

September 17. — The poor de Witts are dead; and as it is, I believe them to be dead as innocent victims of the expiring liberty of the Republic. Time will tell.


Above: Kristina.

Note: The brothers Johan and Cornelis de Witt had just been tortured, murdered and even partially eaten by a pro-Orangist mob in The Hague on August 20, 1672.