Wednesday, February 15, 2023

Whitelocke and Kristina have a talk, March 15/25 (Old Style), 1654

Source:

A journal of the Swedish ambassy, in the years M.DCC.LIII. and M.DCC.LIV., volume 1, pages 501 to 502, Bulstrode Whitelocke, published in 1772


The diary entry:

Whitelocke waited on the queen, and gave her an account of the conference between Grave Eric and him: the queen said, that Grave Eric had told her the same things; Whitelocke replyed, that her majesty should never find other than trueth from him. Uppon the point of damages she seemed satisfyed, though she were informed, that those matters were remitted to Whitelocke's negotiation: to which he answeared as he had done before to Eric; and she was contented, and said, she would send an ambassador to England, by whom the affayres touching the herring fishing, and the erection of a staple, and the trade in America, might be concluded; and she told Whitelocke, that she had ordered those things, which she judged fitt to be added to his articles, to be written down and given to him.

She asked Whitelocke, by what way he purposed to returne to England; he said, he was doubtfull of going by land, and thought the passage from Stockholme to Lubec would be the shortest and most convenient for him.

She replyed, that would be his best way, and that she would give order for some of her ships to be ready to transport him; for which Whitelocke thanked her majesty.

She discoursed much of England, and asked many questions about the Thames, and other rivers of England, and of their havens and armies; wherof Whitelocke gave her a full account.

She asked him, in how many dayes one might goe from Plimouth to St. Sebastian, and many other things on that subject.

They also discoursed of religion, and the worship and service of God; wherin Whitelocke spake plainly and freely to her majesty, and told her, that those who made a mock att religion, and were atheists in their opinion, were not only most miserable in their own condition, butt brought others likewise into misery; and all of them would find, that God would not be mocked, nor such conversation be excused, butt would be brought into a sad account in the end; and that there was no foundation in any such people, or in their opinions, butt what was sandy, and would sayle, and all building theruppon would totter, and falle downe, and become rubbish: that the only sollid comfort and true wisdome lay in the sincere worship and service of God, which was not only agreeable to the doctrine of trueth, butt to reason itselfe. To this, and much of the like discourse, the queen was very attentive, and seemed pleased with it. ...


Above: Kristina.


Above: Bulstrode Whitelocke.

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